The two failures also throw the council's decision making processes into the spotlight once again.
Garnant Golf Club went into receivership two days ago and closed its doors. So far there has not been a word about it on the council's website, although the collapse has been reported by the South Wales Guardian and the BBC, and there have been calls from opposition councillors for an investigation into the deal the council did with the operators in 2011.
Yesterday Rhodri Glyn Thomas AM was interviewed on both Post Cyntaf (Radio Cymru) and Good Morning Wales. He made the point that significant amounts of public money had been sunk into the venture, and that Plaid Cymru had expressed concerns when the deal was struck back in 2011. Why had the council not been aware of the company's financial difficulties?
The council was as usual unable to put up a spokesperson, but sent instead a brief statement saying that it was too soon to say what had gone wrong, and it was trying to contact the company. It went on to blame the general economic climate.
The Carmarthen Journal, whose patch includes Garnant, has also been silent on the debacle, presumably as it waits for guidance from County Hall about what to say. The only news you will find about Garnant there is that council leader Kevin Madge held a surgery in Garnant Club last week.
The Journal finally got round to reporting on the closure of the golf club on 18 January, presumably having had to wait for guidance from County Hall on what to say. The South Wales Guardian broke the news on 14 January. The Guardian today carries an interview with Kevin Madge who defends the decision to lease the club out to Clay's Golf and promises that he will do everything in his power to keep the club going.
It looks like curtains for Garnant Golf Club, then.
In the case of Parc Howard in Llanelli, the council has issued a press release on the rejection by the Heritage Lottery Fund of the funding bid. The council pins the blame for this on what it terms a "small group of opponents" to the scheme who apparently objected to proposed car parking arrangements, and the Llanelli Star has reprinted the council's statement.
There is a story here, however. If the council's statement is true, opponents of the council's proposals turn out to have played a very important part in what has happened, but nowhere in the archives will you find any explanation of who the objectors were or what they did not like about the council's bid. The closest we get to a hint that everything was not well is in a Llanelli Star article from June 2013 (here).
What emerges from that report was that members of Llanelli Town Council felt the county council had not consulted widely enough with the public on the future of the park and its house, only to have their concerns dismissed by Meryl Gravell.
The truth appears to be that Carmarthenshire County Council tried to bulldoze through its vision for the park and failed to take on board the views of local people, with the result that the rescue plan came unstuck when it reached the Heritage Lottery Fund.
When Plaid councillors criticised the Garnant deal in 2011, Kevin Madge dismissed their concerns as "clueless electioneering".
In the light of the closure of the golf club and the very uncertain future which awaits Parc Howard, who looks clueless now?