The final leg of this month's meeting of Carmarthenshire County Council dealt with the Local Development Plan, a framework for planning and development in the county which will take us through to 2021.
The debate lasted roughly an hour - as much time as had been devoted to personal tributes and award ceremonies earlier on - and it was without doubt one of the worst set-piece debates this council has held in recent years, especially when you consider the huge impact it could have on just about everyone who lives in Carmarthenshire.
Calum Higgins (Lab) raised a technical point about whether the LDP would replace the previous UDP (yes). Anthony Jones (Lab), whose solution to everything is to defer and/or kick the ball into the long grass, wanted to defer a proposal made by Emlyn Dole, while Terry Davies (Lab) played Ex Lax to Anthony Jones's Imodium with a proposal to put an end to debate and vote the thing through.
Apart from that, and brief speeches from Meryl Gravell and Kevin Madge, Labour and Independent councillors had absolutely nothing to say about what is the most important policy document to come before them this year.
The debate was kicked off by Meryl Gravell, who when she had finished praising the wonderful job done by council officers, told councillors that they had better vote to adopt the plan, or the Welsh Government would probably impose it on them.
Very disappointingly, councillors failed to rise to that challenge. If the Welsh Government would impose it on the county anyway, why not let Carl Sergeant do the dirty work himself? And why not work with other councils in Wales to persuade them to make a similar stand?
As it was, only 5 councillors abstained in the final vote, with what looked like the rest voting to accept.
[Update - the technical term for what happened on the Plaid benches is a cock-up, with councillors voting three ways because some were not sure what they were voting on.]
Heading up the debate for Plaid, Emlyn Dole noted that the plan was not really a local plan at all, and he wondered who had appointed the Planning Inspector who had presided over the whole thing.
The LDP is in reality a set of targets handed down by civil servants in Cardiff, and the council's job was to wrap them up in lots of documentation. Wherever the council made a mild attempt to deviate from the path (for example with same very diluted proposals to protect the Welsh language), the Inspector had stamped down on it.
The Planning Inspectorate, it should be recalled, is not a devolved body but is responsible for England as well as Wales. To add insult to injury, Carmarthenshire's council tax payers were obliged to pay for the Inspector, just as in some countries the families of those executed by the state are made to pay for the bullets.
Kevin Madge (Lab) gave one of his most incoherent off-the-cuff rambles for a long time. Despite being a councillor for 37 years, he has never learned to prepare himself before speaking.
What we got was that the county has to make affordable housing available to help young people. A good thing, but someone should have asked Cllr Madge why the targets for affordable housing had been cut during the LDP process.
Next he said that "if we are going to work with Sir Terry Matthews, we need the land". This was a reference to the Swansea Bay City Region, which it seems would like to build lots of houses in Carmarthenshire.
He then turned his attention to the Welsh language and told us that Carl Sergeant was "going to send some people down" to talk about putting something about the language into the Planning Bill now working its way through the Assembly.
He noted with approval that Meirion Prys Jones, the former head of the now defunct Welsh Language Board, reckoned that large scale housing development and protecting the language were not necessarily incompatible. Kev was probably unaware that a study carried out by the Welsh Language Board on housing development in Conwy had come to the opposite conclusion.
That makes Kevin Madge's speech sound much more coherent than it was, because most of it was devoted to meaningless waffle about moving on, working hard and doing our best.
For Plaid, Cllr Linda Evans was very disappointed to see that the Inspector had removed a requirement for wind turbines to be located at least 1,500 metres from the nearest house, cutting the distance to 500 metres.
Cllr Gwyneth Thomas (Plaid) and David Jenkins (Plaid) suspected that Hywel Dda Health Board had not been fully involved in the LDP process. Given the huge housing developments that were being proposed, it was vital that there were health services there to meet the demand.
The Head of Planning, Eifion Bowen, gave a fairly unconvincing reply saying that the health board had been consulted.
A great deal of the debate was taken up by a technicality. In essence the issue was that anyone wishing to convert farm buildings for residential use had to first "market them continuously" for a whole year before a planning application could be considered. If nobody else wanted to use a cowshed for, say, cows, it could then be considered for humans.
This provision had been removed from the LDP itself, but for reasons which remained completely unclear had been put back into supplementary planning guidance (SPG) by the council's own planning officers.
SPGs are in reality the only really local bit of the LDP, and the result was that the council was in danger of being even more restrictive and unreasonable than national policy, which as Alun Lenny (Plaid) pointed out in a separate contribution is both daft and unreasonable.
Back and forth went the exchanges. Let's remove the offending paragraphs if they don't need to be there, said Emlyn Dole. Let's defer a decision, said Anthony Jones.
Eifion Bowen did a very convincing impression of Sir Humphrey Appleby from Yes Minister. His lips moved and he sounded as though he knew what he was talking about without making sense. Give that man an OBE.
Eventually Mark James intervened. He had had a quiet word with his boy and told him that the paragraphs could be deleted after all.
And so up popped Terry Davies (Lab), the Judge Jeffreys of planning, to call for the whole thing to be put to a vote.
Meryl got her developers charter in the end without a fight.