tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post4741935855580844395..comments2023-05-08T10:46:34.371+01:00Comments on Y Cneifiwr: NewspeakUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-42399031764107103292013-06-23T13:03:28.809+01:002013-06-23T13:03:28.809+01:00Anon 10:59, You can't make the connection?Anon 10:59, You can't make the connection?Jac o' the North,https://www.blogger.com/profile/02032744625666336148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-16250480593150985472013-06-23T10:59:09.310+01:002013-06-23T10:59:09.310+01:00Confused? Is this piece about protecting the langu...Confused? Is this piece about protecting the language and culture of certain parts of Wales or is it about building properties that are surplus to demand (local or otherwise)?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-24711533327778785672013-06-22T23:19:15.096+01:002013-06-22T23:19:15.096+01:00What about social housing??? Yes the language is i...What about social housing??? Yes the language is important to us in wales, the provision of social housing for the people of Carmarthenshire that are in dire need of must be addressed. <br /><br />We do need social housing.... This would not be surplus to demand, ask housing how many people they have on their list awaiting a property or transfer to a more suitable property? <br /><br />The LDP should have taken the cultural values into account prior to implementation. We need our language!<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-37069201204097851212013-06-22T22:32:07.917+01:002013-06-22T22:32:07.917+01:00Another issue might be whether the ruling would ha...Another issue might be whether the ruling would have been different if Flemish was regarded as an endangered language. But with 6.5 million speakers it is clearly not. Even less so if we treat Flemish as a dialect of Dutch (which it is) and remember that there are some 24 million speakers of Dutch (inc. Flemish).Jac o' the North,https://www.blogger.com/profile/02032744625666336148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-39846914824162126482013-06-22T21:50:05.075+01:002013-06-22T21:50:05.075+01:00Anon 18:58, Jac has read it, and agrees with Cneif...Anon 18:58, Jac has read it, and agrees with Cneifiwr; no one I know of in Wales is arguing that property can only be sold to local people. Maybe you haven't read the article.<br /><br />What is being discussed, in Carmarthenshire and elsewhere, is the building of new properties that are clearly surplus to any local demand. Jac o' the North,https://www.blogger.com/profile/02032744625666336148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-79703909272125858102013-06-22T20:27:52.984+01:002013-06-22T20:27:52.984+01:00Anon @18.58 Actually I suggest you read the articl...Anon @18.58 Actually I suggest you read the article - what they were trying to do in Flanders was to limit the right to buy to locals - not what is being suggested here.Cneifiwrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767078276794410524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-9398271550471394662013-06-22T19:09:12.070+01:002013-06-22T19:09:12.070+01:00Have you looked at what the Gaeltacht has done for...Have you looked at what the Gaeltacht has done for Irish speakers ? I dont think numbers have increased and in fact worsen<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-78334902230431804672013-06-22T18:58:45.867+01:002013-06-22T18:58:45.867+01:00http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/new-b...http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/new-blow-welsh-language-communities-3901514<br /><br />I suggest 'Jac' has a good read.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-72306740278759635622013-06-22T17:31:22.084+01:002013-06-22T17:31:22.084+01:00Anon @16.24 - that would at least that makes a lit...Anon @16.24 - that would at least that makes a little more sense. I listened carefully to what he said several times - actually, he said "consensus" rather than census, and managed to fluff the rest of the sentence as well. Cneifiwrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767078276794410524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-5781687208856983192013-06-22T16:31:33.825+01:002013-06-22T16:31:33.825+01:00There is a recent court case regarding local affor...There is a recent court case regarding local affordable housing and Flemish guidelines. The restrictions on planning were rejected by the ECJ. Read the western mail about a month ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-32820325099376157332013-06-22T16:26:03.654+01:002013-06-22T16:26:03.654+01:00Why did plaid vote in favour of the LDP if they th...Why did plaid vote in favour of the LDP if they think that there are too many houses? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-81289845629464870632013-06-22T16:24:20.560+01:002013-06-22T16:24:20.560+01:00I'm sorry but either this blog is incompetent,...I'm sorry but either this blog is incompetent, or a lie.<br /><br />The amendment was a follows: insert after planning and development:<br />Needs clarification and strengthening. <br />The Council asks the recently established cross-party Task and Finish Group on the Welsh Language and the census to include this matter in their deliberations and to make recommendations as to what representations the County Council should make to the Welsh Government in this respect.<br /><br />You have doctored the text and I would suggest that people watch the unedited film of the meeting. Before the vote Cllr Higgins clearly reads out the first sentence of the amendment which you have left out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-50409274309277025632013-06-22T16:11:58.701+01:002013-06-22T16:11:58.701+01:00Anon 10:39, the legislation you refer to is design...Anon 10:39, the legislation you refer to is designed to facilitate the free movement of workers and capital <i><b>between</b></i> Member States, it does not concern itself with internal migration within Member States. But there is a European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages. So you're wrong on two counts.<br /><br />Obviously I don't know who you are (though I feel certain I've read the same sentiments expressed in exactly the same way, somewhere else). But I have noticed that many who use the 'Freedom of movement' argument to defend the colonisation of Wales are often anti-European!<br /><br />Giving us the glorious irony of Ukip Brit nationalists selectively using the laws of an institution they detest! Ewgorralaffinew!Jac o' the North,https://www.blogger.com/profile/02032744625666336148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-31952586691478282472013-06-22T14:37:48.163+01:002013-06-22T14:37:48.163+01:00Strict planning rules are entirely lawful.
Strict...Strict planning rules are entirely lawful.<br /><br />Strict planning rules that attempt to use language, race, religion, colour or any number of perceived 'people differences' to determine outcomes are unlawful and can be disregarded at outset.<br /><br />Indeed, better still, pursue the planners and the local council through the law courts for adequate retribution.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-90791628000671469652013-06-22T13:12:40.062+01:002013-06-22T13:12:40.062+01:00Anon 10.39 is obviously ignorant of planning restr...Anon 10.39 is obviously ignorant of planning restraints and restrictions, particularly as a means of ensuring the vitality of culture and language, as applied in many other European countries, whether they are EC members or not. The Irish Gaeltacht is certainly not the only area where strict planning rules are applied. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-27887103057498073782013-06-22T11:16:34.744+01:002013-06-22T11:16:34.744+01:00That handily sums up the attitude of some of Carma...That handily sums up the attitude of some of Carmarthenshire's county councillors.<br /><br />What this is about is allowing building according to local need. You and everyone else still have the right to live anywhere you like, but you can't build a new house wherever you like.<br /><br />If you think this is a uniquely Welsh issue, try getting planning permission for a large housing estate in the Irish Gaeltacht.Cneifiwrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767078276794410524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-32303544542404452852013-06-22T10:39:25.680+01:002013-06-22T10:39:25.680+01:00I think it is time a few myths were dispelled here...I think it is time a few myths were dispelled here.<br /><br />There is NO link between planning and the Welsh language. TAN20, insofar as far as it seeks to make any such link, can be considered unlawful.<br /><br />The EU does not allow for matters of language, any language, to hinder in any way whatsoever the free movement of peoples and capital throughout the Union.<br /><br />Yes, the Welsh language is important and has a right to a degree of protection. But not at the expense of matters more important. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com