tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post6570429761421178154..comments2023-05-08T10:46:34.371+01:00Comments on Y Cneifiwr: Llangennech - Gwyn Hopkins Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-6076014374768863642017-03-02T11:51:08.951+00:002017-03-02T11:51:08.951+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821257360964807085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-81897803111960945792017-03-02T09:34:18.738+00:002017-03-02T09:34:18.738+00:00Gary you're again missing the point about the ...Gary you're again missing the point about the Statutory Notice, it's only the ones objecting that matter therefore less than 1/5 of the village bothered to object. Whether or not the people who you're talking to in the village whilst out canvassing are against the change bears no relevance because they should have objected to the Statutory Notice. <br /><br />Regarding your accusation of 'a councillor', please clarify the facts, who, where, when and an example of the proforma that was being distributed. Lis Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-8495096618256175492017-03-02T09:16:24.752+00:002017-03-02T09:16:24.752+00:00As a disinterested rather than uninterested onlook...As a disinterested rather than uninterested onlooker, I'm becoming more and more confused by what Gary Jones (whoever he is) writes in his somewhat muddled comments. Less verbosity and more clarity is needed Mr Jones.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-28999854820640970472017-03-02T08:59:15.049+00:002017-03-02T08:59:15.049+00:00Can't see that line from the link you provided...Can't see that line from the link you provided, even so "language continuum @ is a very vague notion. Hendy School Governors have rejected Welsh Medium only I believe? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821257360964807085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-30015749619797955442017-03-02T08:43:28.762+00:002017-03-02T08:43:28.762+00:00Yes, we can use social media in our break time, as...Yes, we can use social media in our break time, as long as we don't comment on work activity.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821257360964807085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-80827638422032361832017-03-01T20:41:44.973+00:002017-03-01T20:41:44.973+00:00I removed the comment , because I repeated the poi...I removed the comment , because I repeated the points below Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821257360964807085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-36796220267860286742017-03-01T20:34:32.834+00:002017-03-01T20:34:32.834+00:00facts are dangerous things
http://online.carmarth...facts are dangerous things<br /><br />http://online.carmarthenshire.gov.uk/agendas/eng/EDUC20140708/REP05.HTM<br /><br />8th July 2014<br /><br />Decision made to move ALL Dual Stream schools along the 'language continuum'.<br />Damn those inconvenient truths and their ways of stymieing a poorly thought out position adopted by someone more interested in party games than the facts.<br /><br />Obreros a la Victoria!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-52819880222358231722017-03-01T14:26:35.717+00:002017-03-01T14:26:35.717+00:00It's done with now. Maybe your energies would ...It's done with now. Maybe your energies would be better spent discussing with locals the benefits of the changes. As much as I'm sure you and others involved in this situation may see negatives there are positives in the long run for any child. Languages are mandatory at Secondary level - be it German, French or Spanish. Its a proven fact that bilingual children are able to pick up extra languages far more easily than a monoglot. Those are free GCSE's and even A-Levels. Huw Edwards is a good example... he went on to do French in Cardiff Uni (Got a first class honours too). If I were a local Councillor i'd be reassuring those who I represent of the benefits their child would gain from learning through a different language - or in this regard: their own language.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-41950645640047140322017-03-01T13:52:29.783+00:002017-03-01T13:52:29.783+00:00You can obtain all information through The Freedom...You can obtain all information through The Freedom of Information act.<br /> My personal stance on this is,I support any family having access to English or Welsh Medium Education in the area they live, and here in Llangennech I support the school remaining Dual Stream as I believe children living in the village should not be split up. I would oppose this even if the council was Labour controlled, as I am a community Councillor first. My colleague on the Council, Labour, supports the proposal.<br /> The handling of the proposal was hamstringed from the start, when the protest went to the Community Council in January 2016, the chair, guess who, refused to have a public meeting on the issue declaring that it was not an issue for the community council. I would have thought that all the above "facts" would have been the right time to be presented. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821257360964807085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-88234273084780990212017-03-01T13:03:27.564+00:002017-03-01T13:03:27.564+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821257360964807085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-88707381054393611752017-03-01T07:15:56.279+00:002017-03-01T07:15:56.279+00:00Oh ! And your paid to go on the interneth? Next yo...Oh ! And your paid to go on the interneth? Next you be saying it was break time .. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-78454741720171795152017-02-28T20:41:50.078+00:002017-02-28T20:41:50.078+00:00I love watching Gary Jones try to split hairs and ...I love watching Gary Jones try to split hairs and continue to make a party political point.<br />It's so refreshing to see that a candidate is putting his party and prejudices first. Which party is it, again? LabKip?<br />As the Council online record only goes back to 2015, it is difficult to see how he can be so confident of his version of 'the facts'.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-24993573435519627962017-02-28T19:22:32.634+00:002017-02-28T19:22:32.634+00:00The map is a little misleading due to the 2 mega W...The map is a little misleading due to the 2 mega Welsh Primary Schools, Ffwrnes and Dewi Sant with well over 400 pupils each. No English language primary schools are anywhere close to this capacity. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-40709421304398593682017-02-28T18:27:40.345+00:002017-02-28T18:27:40.345+00:00If anyone is interested, I am Nights again tonight...If anyone is interested, I am Nights again tonight, so may reply late in the night. Major shift pattern and redundancies happening in April. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821257360964807085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-16340781842189747502017-02-28T18:21:28.932+00:002017-02-28T18:21:28.932+00:00Not all the questions submitted to the council hav...Not all the questions submitted to the council have been answered, They said they would reply in writing to many, but am still waiting. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821257360964807085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-22374108419294486382017-02-28T18:19:53.495+00:002017-02-28T18:19:53.495+00:00The 698 quoted are mostly from outside the village...The 698 quoted are mostly from outside the village,the information was obtained by a freedom of information request. A certain Councillor was seen distributing proformas in meetings all around Wales, anyone is welcome to see them. On the other point I suspect the village is probably in the majority against the proposal, this is my personal view as a result of canvass returns recently. <br /> Once the Ombudsman has reviewed the case, I as a democrat will accept the decision and work with the school, if elected.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821257360964807085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-42957752376242172892017-02-28T18:10:04.635+00:002017-02-28T18:10:04.635+00:00I was Nights I was Nights Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821257360964807085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-75643926874320840162017-02-28T18:03:30.881+00:002017-02-28T18:03:30.881+00:00The ability to speak two languages is a gift that ...The ability to speak two languages is a gift that should be cherished. Fel Cymro Cymraeg mae na falchder yn fu hgnalon pan rwy'n clywed y plant yn siarad Cymraeg. <br />Mae'n drieni mawr fod hwn wedi cael eu droi mewn i rhyfel rhwng Plaid a LlafurAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-38887645953129115392017-02-28T08:50:16.066+00:002017-02-28T08:50:16.066+00:00Night Shift! I extend the offer to come and meet, ...Night Shift! I extend the offer to come and meet, if you want our side of the coin. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821257360964807085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-6355512611474575112017-02-28T08:40:18.524+00:002017-02-28T08:40:18.524+00:00The purpose of a Statutory Notice is for people to...The purpose of a Statutory Notice is for people to object to something which only 720 in a village of 5000 did. As you rightly said Gary, you the protestors were knocking on doors in the village (and beyond) to encourage people to sign the proformas. I can tell you that I didn't appreciate being accused on my own doorstep of pushing 'English speaking children' out of the village! The fact the Council received 698 of responses from people in support of the change (without any door knocking and considering that a Statutory Notice doesn't ask for responses of support) proves that the MAJORITY of the village are in favour of this proposal. All your questions submitted to the Council have been answered on numerous occasions and not liking the answers received doesn't mean that the questions have been unanswered. As a Community Councillor, you should now be setting a good example to the other protestors (all of whom either don't have children in the school or their children will not be affected by the change) and start supporting the headmaster, staff and pupils through this change. Lis Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-36594035689243163312017-02-28T07:13:28.212+00:002017-02-28T07:13:28.212+00:00Gary Jones i think Cneifiwr has it right . It IS k...Gary Jones i think Cneifiwr has it right . It IS keeping you awake . Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-30570486623115604392017-02-28T06:02:23.110+00:002017-02-28T06:02:23.110+00:00Gary Jones @ 2.55 - this is obviously keeping you ...Gary Jones @ 2.55 - this is obviously keeping you awake at night! It was not in Llangennech.<br /><br />Cneifiwrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767078276794410524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-44850619707955107202017-02-28T03:18:24.644+00:002017-02-28T03:18:24.644+00:00"The choice of schools was - almost certainly..."The choice of schools was - almost certainly- endorsed by Councillor Keith Davies " is very vague, it either was or it wasn't? Also WESP was not endorsed by full council?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821257360964807085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-26888174903221405002017-02-28T02:55:46.623+00:002017-02-28T02:55:46.623+00:00Which meeting, and who was the expert?Which meeting, and who was the expert?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821257360964807085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-74158920637168548882017-02-28T02:49:26.831+00:002017-02-28T02:49:26.831+00:00The decision to choose Llangennech was taken at an...The decision to choose Llangennech was taken at an Executive Board meeting in December 2015 ( Plaid/Indy ) Parents found out via Llanelli Star in January 2016, they asked for a public meeting on the issue in The Community Council meeting, it was refused.<br />I helped the protest group, at the time there were only 5 active members of the Labour Party in the village, myself, another Community Councillor, who supported the decision, and 3 students, who took no part.<br /><br />The proformas gathered by the protest group was done in the Village. No cohesion was employed, in fact I took 2 of the proformas that were for the proposal, and passed them on.Under the Freedom act, the campaign group obtained the Pro letters of support, they came from all over Wales, very few from the village, you are welcome to come and view both sets.<br /> There is a significant opposition to this change, which I see when I regularly canvass, you assume that parents have access to transportation, so that they can choose to transport their children to an English Medium school, this is not always the case, and the council have refused to provide any transport.<br /> If it is the case that, it's all the fault of the last Labour/ Indy council in choosing Llangennech School, it makes me wonder why has it taken so long to find out? <br />The protest group has a 30 page document, detailing the failings of the consultation process, they are still awaiting answers on many issues.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821257360964807085noreply@blogger.com