tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post2892436782315075966..comments2023-05-08T10:46:34.371+01:00Comments on Y Cneifiwr: Question Time on the TitanicUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-34213833197325997062013-11-15T07:30:52.914+00:002013-11-15T07:30:52.914+00:00"Mr. Bloggy" eh? Well, it's clearly ..."Mr. Bloggy" eh? Well, it's clearly all over for you then - a figure of fun - a ridiculous fool, a childish idiot... <br /><br />Only of course, even a child can see through this sham... What's that you say? You're *not* the being investigated for unlawful acts, but the ruling junta, and there's no easy way to say this I'm afraid, sort of, well, ARE???<br /><br />Ironic isn't it - as mentioned in the chamber, the public are far more concerned with the issues you have raised than any other, and yet rather than addressing the concerns of those they are meant to represent, the council instead tries to mock you. In so doing, they actually mock both their constituents and the democratic process they are supposed to be following. (It's ok lads - you'll find "Democratic Process" in "How To Be A Councillor For Dummies" - you only have to be arsed to look.)<br /><br />They play the man instead of the ball, and it's hard to escape the conclusion that they do that for a reason.<br /><br />Muppetman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-66647686797618147772013-11-14T17:28:05.675+00:002013-11-14T17:28:05.675+00:00I must say I do like the way Cllr Madge and others...I must say I do like the way Cllr Madge and others try so very hard to keep the politics out of a political process. Not sure what is left when you do that, but so much easier to control, isn't it?Mrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-91139546014567629382013-11-14T17:00:19.761+00:002013-11-14T17:00:19.761+00:00I doubt that webcam evidence will ensure that item...I doubt that webcam evidence will ensure that items get minuted properly - in the surreal world of CCC the rule seems to be that if you don't want something challenged by awkward members, merely ensure that it doesn't appear on the minutes, and then the rule seems to be that if it isn't in the minutes, you can't talk about it. There must have been other Members in the Chamber who could have backed up Cllr Caiach's version of what transpired in the Audit Committee, but staying mute seems to be a tried and tested way of avoiding answering questions or otherwise rocking the boat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-57881123809875387832013-11-14T13:16:53.151+00:002013-11-14T13:16:53.151+00:00It seems many of those speaking need to brought u...It seems many of those speaking need to brought under Disrepute charges. There making themselves and the people of Carmarthenshire look like a bunch of plebs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-11992222911841480422013-11-14T10:26:58.942+00:002013-11-14T10:26:58.942+00:00It was a classic rambling, metaphor-crunching spee...It was a classic rambling, metaphor-crunching speech from Mr Madge, though: " ... they're playing political ping-pong ... political ostriches sitting in the sand, hoping it will all go away ... you get your spindoctors, you get Mr. Bloggy, you get other people, and every time they react, you jump ... You're one-sided; you just come here with your politics." Watch from 1:37.07, and weep.Emlyn Uwch Cychhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03384157218244458970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-77886418937082467252013-11-14T07:29:53.615+00:002013-11-14T07:29:53.615+00:00Anon @18.38 I agree 100% - the quality of the broa...Anon @18.38 I agree 100% - the quality of the broadcasts is excellent, and I very much hope that they continue next year and are extended to other meetings.<br /><br />One issue raised yesterday was the quality of minutes. It seems that a part of the record of the Audit Committee meeting which dealt with concerns about the risks of the Scarlets deal was completely absent from the minutes.<br /><br />The only way councillors and the public can get a reliable and truthful account of important meetings is the filmed record.Cneifiwrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767078276794410524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-20161889877566677212013-11-14T07:06:06.902+00:002013-11-14T07:06:06.902+00:00Who knows, Mrs Angry? Apparently Mr Bloggy is resp...Who knows, Mrs Angry? Apparently Mr Bloggy is responsible for dragging politics into the Council Chamber in Kev's view.<br /><br />Kev has of course never had anything to do with politics.Cneifiwrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767078276794410524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-79815678007261431862013-11-14T00:25:36.440+00:002013-11-14T00:25:36.440+00:00PS - Cneifiwr - are you 'Mr Bloggy'? I thi...PS - Cneifiwr - are you 'Mr Bloggy'? I think we should be told.Mrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-9580058037929747822013-11-14T00:24:38.650+00:002013-11-14T00:24:38.650+00:00It is truly a surprise to see how the dynamics of ...It is truly a surprise to see how the dynamics of the relationship between senior officers and elected members work in this council.The exchange with Cllr Caiach over what sort of information she is entitled to have and the way in which it was expressed was really quite extraordinary, in my view. <br /><br />Even in Barnet, officers take great care to pretend that the councillors are really in charge, whilst laughing up their sleeves.<br /><br />In Carmarthenshire it seems that while the Chair demands an almost feudal respect from members, officers are not under the same obligation to defer to councillors, as should be the case. This demonstrates quite clearly that there is a democratic deficit right there, in the chamber, and it can only be a matter of time before it becomes necessary to adjust the balance of power to the setting on which it should operate.cMrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-51957303099394071972013-11-13T18:38:51.429+00:002013-11-13T18:38:51.429+00:00I too admired Pam's chutzpah; how many Members...I too admired Pam's chutzpah; how many Members will be rushing back to their constituents to tell them what a fine job "Roger" had done in producing what she curiously referred to as a mostly "unqualified" audit report? I take it that she means that the WAO had no concerns about most of it - it was just the instances of spending public money unlawfully that they were making all the fuss about - bureaucrats, huh?<br /><br />Whilst I could scarcely believe what I was hearing and seeing, I must congratulate the Council (seriously now) for ensuring that the webcasting was done properly. I could see who was speaking and hear what they said, which is more than can often be achieved in the public gallery. The camera operator was clearly awake and on the ball, which might not have been the case elsewhere in the Chamber, and he or she did a good job. A great service - and needs to be extended to all Council meetings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-29923186103642854642013-11-13T17:57:42.847+00:002013-11-13T17:57:42.847+00:00Kevin Madge talked about ostriches hiding in the s...Kevin Madge talked about ostriches hiding in the sand- actually it is hiding heads in the sand.Is not that what Pam Palmer is doing? It beggars belief that she is still clinging on<br />to a sinking ship.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-9240773204917920292013-11-13T16:53:53.668+00:002013-11-13T16:53:53.668+00:00Is there enough room on the floating driftwood? &q...Is there enough room on the floating driftwood? "I'll never let go, Mark. I promise."Owenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04347494808853759106noreply@blogger.com