tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post1680962806144204000..comments2023-05-08T10:46:34.371+01:00Comments on Y Cneifiwr: A toxic marriageUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-52456445200145527662013-12-19T12:58:51.961+00:002013-12-19T12:58:51.961+00:00Thanks for the link, Anon 19th 04:39.
I was at thi...Thanks for the link, Anon 19th 04:39.<br />I was at this particular farce. Critics of the proposal were shouted down. I perceived a general environment of adulation, which in fact is hinted at in the line from the minutes themselves: "Many members paid tribute to the officers involved in preparing the report and for the opportunity of receiving a presentation from the Scarlets representatives". FFS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-83290040603477057122013-12-19T04:39:48.898+00:002013-12-19T04:39:48.898+00:00http://online.carmarthenshire.gov.uk/agendas/eng/C...http://online.carmarthenshire.gov.uk/agendas/eng/COCO20071114/MINUTES.HTMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-71813927480525147952013-12-18T23:14:25.043+00:002013-12-18T23:14:25.043+00:00That rugby club has got somehow to distance itself...That rugby club has got somehow to distance itself from<br />Carmarthenshire county council or it has had it.The <br />Council is despised by nearly everyone I know,their<br />Support will never increase the way things are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-18472110622745873792013-12-18T22:56:57.438+00:002013-12-18T22:56:57.438+00:00Jac, that is another huge subject.
There are sev...Jac, that is another huge subject. <br /><br />There are several blogposts about Stradey Park on this blog. Unfortunately the Blogger software is playing up, and so the search facility does not currently work, but you can Google it.Cneifiwrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767078276794410524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-85932939134365230472013-12-18T19:07:24.236+00:002013-12-18T19:07:24.236+00:00Scarlets reality check not blank chequeScarlets reality check not blank chequeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-49647424372445710342013-12-18T18:52:21.091+00:002013-12-18T18:52:21.091+00:00One aspect of this saga that has not been mentione...One aspect of this saga that has not been mentioned is that many fans refused to make the emotional switch from Stradey. With the result that attendances at Parc y Scarlets are very poor. Making the region ever more dependent on public generosity.<br /><br />So it could be argued that the move from Stradey was a disaster all round.<br /><br />Something else that occurs to me is that the region was due to make a lot of money from the new houses built on the old Stradey Park. What's happened there?Jac o' the North,https://www.blogger.com/profile/02032744625666336148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-72309984213663334392013-12-18T18:51:31.774+00:002013-12-18T18:51:31.774+00:00It seems to me that Cllr Caiach has referred the q...It seems to me that Cllr Caiach has referred the question of possible EU illegality to the European Commission out of frustration arising from the inability of elected councillors to get straight answers from the Pyongyang-like mandarins (if that’s not mixing my metaphors) in County Hall. I doubt she is worried that other clubs in the EU are not operating on a “level playing field” in terms of business competition.<br /><br />From my viewpoint it seems that the Council has got completely out of its depth in supporting the Scarlets. Perhaps the attraction has been that senior officers and Council members get a huge amount of political and personal kudos being seen as big supporters of the club, but also, effectively, as uncritical and undemanding financial backers. I expect that they and their posh guests are welcomed with open arms every time they strut through the VIP entrance of Parc-y-Scarlets on the way to the hospitality boxes. Maybe I’m wrong – perhaps no councillor or officer has ever received any hospitality from the club – perhaps someone can tell me.<br /><br />But the whole support package seems like a massive vanity project, and the political message to more junior officers may well have been “Get this done – don’t quibble about technicalities or penny-pinching”. Even if all was done with absolute due diligence, I wonder whether Carmarthenshire officers, or even the District Valuer’s staff, had (with all due respect) sufficient experience of complicated large-scale commercial transactions to match the expertise and negotiating skills of the top-gun chartered surveyors and lawyers who were no doubt engaged to act on behalf of the Scarlets in drawing up these deals. <br /><br />It’s easy for an anonymous armchair keyboard-warriors to make all sorts of wild accusations and suggestions of impropriety or incompetence. But the facts in this case are so incredible, and the amounts of public money at stake are so great, that the public deserves a better account than the Council has offered so far. The refusal to share even a 6 year old legal opinion with one of its own councillors is contemptuous; the public spotlight now brought to bear on this matter is of the Council’s own making.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-61957159025042023352013-12-18T18:02:22.905+00:002013-12-18T18:02:22.905+00:00Or maybe "James United"Or maybe "James United"<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-51740005232805002822013-12-18T16:45:12.341+00:002013-12-18T16:45:12.341+00:00It's shame the team is not called Llanelly or ...It's shame the team is not called Llanelly or Sir Gar, to my mind at least the area would get some sort notice if that were so.<br />We do not call the Welsh team TEAM HI HO SILVER or TEAM THREE FEATHERS.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-6652312878468225782013-12-18T12:50:12.777+00:002013-12-18T12:50:12.777+00:00Thank you Anon. As I said in the piece, I think th...Thank you Anon. As I said in the piece, I think there is still a cross party consensus in the club's favour. Whether the public will buy it for much longer is another matter - the BBC report contrasts the support being given to the club with the cuts facing ordinary people wanting to take part in sport, rugby included.<br /><br />There is no doubt that a lot of councillors were persuaded into going along with the plan, but only a few had their hands on the levers along with a small number of senior officers. <br /><br />If the Scarlets is to have a future, the first step will be to recognise that there is a problem, and those who sold the plan and continue to spin fairy stories can have no part in sorting out the mess.Cneifiwrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767078276794410524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-90747215254448954602013-12-18T11:35:45.462+00:002013-12-18T11:35:45.462+00:00If every Councillor who voted for the 2007 finance...If every Councillor who voted for the 2007 finance deal stood down, the front benches of all 3 political parties would be devastated.It was a recorded vote and all the current group leaders thought it was a great deal at the time and all groups voted for it almost unanimously. <br />Notable absentees at the 2007 vote were Tegwen Devichand and current Llanelli AM Keith Davies who attended the meeting, went for lunch and stayed away. No Plaid member voted against it, but some independents [no longer Councillors] and 3 labour members did, Councillors<br />Eryl Morgan, Peter Cooper and Bill Thomas had the guts to say no.<br />There was massive pressure on all the Councillors "to save the Scarlets" and by all accounts very heavy briefings to the senior Councillors and group leaders by officers to persuade them to take the risk.<br />The big question is at what point do these people decide that enough is enough and to cut their losses?<br />The council's official position is that all is well and in theory they could toss the Scarlets another bone tomorrow! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com