tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post1013877248183693849..comments2023-05-08T10:46:34.371+01:00Comments on Y Cneifiwr: Reasons to be (cautiously) optimisticUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-54668952996281296872017-06-18T20:38:51.129+01:002017-06-18T20:38:51.129+01:00Anon @12.48 "fantastical, ill-informed rhetor...Anon @12.48 "fantastical, ill-informed rhetoric"? I think you have lost the plot somewhere. The post contains a sober and factual account of Nia's record, and the flip flopping and rank hypocrisy on Trident is just the most startling of many examples of how with Nia principle and honesty are some way down the list of her priorities. What matters to her more than anything else is the Labour Party - and that is how she can support a party which is prepared to spend scores of billions on a US weapons system and back the UK's departure from the single market - something which will cause massive damage to Llanelli and the rest of the country.<br /><br />As for working 24/7 for Llanelli, take a look at her Twitter feed (which I suspect you actually manage), and tell me what all that canvassing for county councillors in Beaumaris and the north of England has got to do with Llanelli.<br /><br />Managed decline is what Welsh Labour is all about, and Llanelli has had nearly 100 years of it.<br /><br />Comments on this post are now closed.<br /><br />Cneifiwrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767078276794410524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-45021261951432796392017-06-18T16:40:50.781+01:002017-06-18T16:40:50.781+01:00In response to Anonymous at 20.54 15 June, I agree...<br />In response to Anonymous at 20.54 15 June, I agree with many of the points you raise. May I suggest that you put yourself forward as a candidate for Plaid Cymru in Llanelli the next time the opportunity arises? If you contact the office on 01554 770345, call into Ty Bres or look for Plaid Llanelli on FB, we are eager to get new activists in and ready to stand and make a difference to this town. If standing as a candidate is not your thing, there are lots of other ways to help. <br /><br />I do feel that Mari Arthur, with her local pedigree, business credentials, warmth and energy, is the best candidate we have had in Llanelli in years, but the snap election and other UK events have squeezed out the other parties as has been pointed out elsewhere. Nia Griffith's increased majority was in no way a reflection of her performance, just as the Tory vote was no reflection of their campaign in Llanelli - I got one generic Tory leaflet the day before the election. <br /><br />There have been issues in the local branch, but we are all moving forward to iron these out - Mari and her team have been instrumental in helping us with this process. <br /><br />There are positives in the offing here in Cymru including the rise of the Yes Cymru movement and the cross-party publication Nation.Cymru. Why not step forward to do your bit for Cymru?<br />Ruth Pricenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-72253470348700925542017-06-18T12:48:48.190+01:002017-06-18T12:48:48.190+01:00Again we are in the realms of fantastical, ill inf...Again we are in the realms of fantastical, ill informed rhetoric. I doubt if Trident came up more than a handful of times on the doorstep. It was labour led activity that led to resolution of the problems at Meddygfa Minafon led by the town councillors. Can you provide evidence to the contrary? Plaid did nothing. It will be interesting to see what the new Plaid County Councillor achieves but hopefully works as proactive and genuine in their concerns for the community. Hopefully this will be so. The Wellness Village is a Plaid led project on Carms CC. The 0 hours project motions by Plaid could be seen as wasting Assembly time as it is not a devolved matter. They seem to be copying their MPs stance of using opposition day motions to grab headlines rather then doing anything meaningful. People in Llanelli would vote for a a 'monkey in a red rosette' - how disrespectful to the people of Llanelli is that and you are forgetting how close it is in the Assembly elections. Sean was employed by Plaid but his contract was terminated upon his deselection as GE Candidate - very poor show. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-43345334172613033512017-06-18T09:07:07.941+01:002017-06-18T09:07:07.941+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-43243587401039210952017-06-17T10:33:45.109+01:002017-06-17T10:33:45.109+01:00To anon 11.14. Of course my comment is astute and ...To anon 11.14. Of course my comment is astute and right on the button. Yours, however, is not. More Plymouth than Llangennech. The reality is that two-faced Nia was talking to households in Cydweli, promising to oppose Trident at one door, the promising to renew Trident at the next. It was Labour who put Parc Howard onto the asset transfer list, Plaid who removed it. The biggest threat to the community is the Labour Party. They have failed to properly staff Meddygfa Minafon with qualified GPs, while at the same time as planning to spend millions on a quiche and chianti fest with the private sector for some ‘Wellness Village’, so that overweight Labour ladies can have their back massaged with Oily Vera quackery as a substitute for proper health provision. At the same time we have a Labour AM who votes against banning zero hour contracts in the Senedd while falsifying residency in his constituency. I can turn around incompetence, and correct mistakes, if that what Plaid has done. The cancer of Labour party, however, with its betrayal, and self-enrichment, needs to be eradicated or evicted. Its promoters exposed.Brychannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-52639071139178175042017-06-15T20:54:05.698+01:002017-06-15T20:54:05.698+01:00Does dim gobaith gan Plaid i ddisodli Nia na ymgei...Does dim gobaith gan Plaid i ddisodli Nia na ymgeisydd seneddol Llafur yn Llanelli. YOu are out of touch with reality Cneifiwr. Plaid ballsed things up, upsetting campaigners and a much valued worker, Sean , who has worked for nothing for Pc for many years, although I think he is emplyed by them now, and rightly so. I am a PC supporter, but they are so way off the mark with what they did with Mari in Llanelli they really need to wake up and smell the coffee, <br />How the hell did Labour gain so many council seats in Llanelli and them as useless and rotten to the core? Because people are ignorant about politics and will vote for Labour donkeys - however PC have to put forward far better local candidates and Cllrs, to make a difference for communities. AT the mo they are not in Llanelli or other places.<br />Llanelli is a disfunctional area, due to the poverty, social problems, drugs, and latterly, stupid decisions made by CCC which have decimated the town and Labour were responsible for this whilst leading the council along with years of Labour cronysim runnig the town. Yet the great unwashed always support their masters- some kind of sadomasochistc thing going on there - but Wales needs a psychoanalyst big time. SOrry to be harsh, I live in the area, and am being totally honest Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-3952007053331063882017-06-15T13:35:11.610+01:002017-06-15T13:35:11.610+01:00I am sure that Trident is not in the top 100 of wo...I am sure that Trident is not in the top 100 of worries of the normal electors in the constituency - only people that seem obsessed by it are you and Plaid. They have a lot more worries on their plate. I would say most of the UKIP vote went back to the Tories from where it originated although some may have gone to Labour. You have such a poisoned view about a person who works 24/7 for her constituents. Luckily the majority of the electorate disagree with you and have done since 2005. As far as people wanting to deselect her then there probably would have been a handful amongst a membership of getting on for 600. These few have an awful lot to say but have never been active or done anything constructive for their local party just being very vocal in their opposition against her on social media and bleating out the same second hand inaccurate rhetoric that you do. She has been reaffirmed as Shadow Defence Secretary so it seems Corbyn is happy to leave the issue of Trident to Labour Party Conference as well. Plaid is much more interesting as the moment - looks like they have a leadership contest coming up. Doubt if you will do so. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-50517011340504258692017-06-15T06:00:00.780+01:002017-06-15T06:00:00.780+01:00Labour troll indeed (Anon@11.14), and your inabili...Labour troll indeed (Anon@11.14), and your inability to spell Cneifiwr is a giveaway. <br /><br />For the record, Nia Griffith launched her "Stop Trident" campaign in October 2015 when she was a member of Corbyn's shadow cabinet. A year later she had done a complete U turn, arguing that the matter had been settled by party conference in 2007 - something which clearly hadn't worried her 12 months earlier.<br /><br />No wonder politicians are held in such low esteem.<br /><br />Nia can thank Theresa May for her survival in more ways than one. If there had not been a snap election, a lot of those people who campaigned for her would have been voting to deselect her.Cneifiwrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767078276794410524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-60794065726079118982017-06-14T19:15:49.535+01:002017-06-14T19:15:49.535+01:00Annon 17.30 was correct, when he pointed out that ...Annon 17.30 was correct, when he pointed out that UKIP's Ken Rees votes went down by 13% and Nia Griffith votes went up 12.1%.<br />To me it is no surprise that Nia got almost all the UKIP vote, after all she is not a typical Corbynista.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-33040789234234194282017-06-13T11:14:09.933+01:002017-06-13T11:14:09.933+01:00Brychan, your post is very astute and right on the...Brychan, your post is very astute and right on the button. Terribly negative campaign by Plaid which accounts for their dismal failure - perhaps you should write a blog of your own because Cyneifiwr seemes to have lost the plot lately spewing out selective and incomplete information aupplied to him by the Plaid trolls. It seems he is not educated in the ways of publicity seeking opposition day motions by Plaid in an effort to gain headlines - not any meaningful effort to help Wales. Personal opinions have to be set aside when placed in a ministerial position. The policy of the Labour Party is at present to renew Trident. It is the Labour Party conference who sets the policy not the leader. It may change but at present Ministers are obliged to follow that position. Plaid have suspended their own for not following party policy. Why should Labour be any different. It really is up to the electorate of Llanelli and Gwendraeth who they want and they have spoken and this decision should be respected. You don't always get want you want. I didn't want the Tories but at least it is not a majority government which is better than before. Plaid do need to come clean about what they really want rather than trying to sneak through the back door on things. At least then the electorate have an honest choice. Democracy will do the rest. Labour Troll.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-39225617023117343412017-06-12T06:31:47.776+01:002017-06-12T06:31:47.776+01:00Looks like the Labour trolls are out in force agai...Looks like the Labour trolls are out in force again. The "hatchet" job was simply a detailed account of Nia Griffiths' record (Anon at 17.30). The use of the term "shilly shallying" is interesting. By an odd coincidence, Nia accused those opposed to renewing Trident of shilly shallying 12 months after launching a campaign to "stop Trident".<br /><br />I wonder if Anon and Nia are related?Cneifiwrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767078276794410524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-24995807279615108862017-06-11T23:46:11.780+01:002017-06-11T23:46:11.780+01:00Hello anonymous @ 16:22
Are you Mike or Kev from ...Hello anonymous @ 16:22<br /><br />Are you Mike or Kev from Trolls4RobJ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-13106917450805695692017-06-11T19:41:43.755+01:002017-06-11T19:41:43.755+01:00
Anon 16.22 is being too kind about Plaid in Llane...<br />Anon 16.22 is being too kind about Plaid in Llanelli. I won’t. Don’t get me wrong, I spent considerable time with Mari Arthur campaigning for Plaid throughout the constituency, and she’s a really nice, genuine lady. Candidate material, I think not. The campaign in Llanelli was torpedoed at the start by the party HQ, de-selecting the young dynamic locally preferred candidate and imposing Mari up from Cardiff. At the campaign launch meeting we had a speech from Adam Price about how to avoid negative campaigning, unveiling the ‘Defend Wales’ theme. The most negative slogan ever to be used by Plaid. I don’t want to defend Wales, I want to put Wales on the map, liberate Wales, stand up for our country, not cower in a ditch under a shield. On the doorsteps, it was a nightmare. Voters I’d got out to elect Jeanette and Kim a few weeks earlier (we took Trimsaran and Cydweli off Labour for the council) were embarrassingly admitting to voting Labour, citing snippets of Corbyns manifesto mainly on the issues that are actually devolved, and currently run by Labour in Wales. Two incidents characterised my campaigning experience in Llanelli. Firstly, a woman who recognised Maria Arthur who said ‘Mari, nice to see you, didn’t you used to live in Trimsaran, where’ve you been all these years?” and the other event, after a hard days campaigning, returning to the pub to a group of about 10 youngsters, playing pool, making a pint last two hours, all who cast their first ever Westminster vote for Corbyn (they didn’t say Labour or Nia) over the issue of tuition fees. Devolved again, but not a squeak out of Plaid on this in the campaign. On the subject of mistaken identity, I’ve never met either, but did confuse Ben Lake for Sean Rees. The former is the MP for Ceredigion, the latter was evicted as an ‘unsuitable’ candidate for Llanelli. Go figure. <br />Brychannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-88506804521036870132017-06-11T18:28:57.022+01:002017-06-11T18:28:57.022+01:00I'm not sure what Plaid actually stands for an...I'm not sure what Plaid actually stands for any more. It seems to have turned its back on our language, our culture, our desire for self-determination and has become Labour lite. They don't seem proud to be Welsh any more. I think it's time for Leanne to move over and make way for a new strategy and a leader with more gravitas. Even with 4 seats Plaid didn't even get a mention in the media when they were doing their sums on the new parliament, we're just not considered relevant to the Media and automatic supporters of Labour. <br />I'd like to see Adam Price take the reins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-51034457370082524592017-06-11T17:30:38.587+01:002017-06-11T17:30:38.587+01:00Just for the sake of clarity re the Llanelli resul...Just for the sake of clarity re the Llanelli results: Nia Griffith, polled 21,568 votes taking 53.5% of the vote, +12.1% on 2015. Regardless of your attempted hatchet job the other week, Nia is held in great regard in Llanelli, is an excellent constituency MP and well-respected across the whole constituency.<br /><br />Plaid's Mari Arthur, was not even the preferred candidate of the local Plaid branch, polled 7,531 votes, 18.2% of the vote, -4.7% on the 2015 Plaid candidate, AND more significantly, came THIRD behind the Tory candidate, local boy, Stephen Davies who took 9,544 votes, 23.7% of the vote, up 9.3% on the previous election. Who knew Llanelli had such a Blue streak? Was it Mari A's abject failure in recognising what issues are devolved to Cardiff, along with her failure to engage with what the issues really are in Llanelli. Badly briefed? There's also the shilly-shallying of the Plaid contingent who think they're in charge in County Hall which has alienated many Plaid voters in Llanelli. <br /><br />Mercifully, Llanelli's voters gave UKIP's Ken Rees a bit of a kicking, with his vote slashed, 13% down from the giddy heights of his 2015 result,with 1,331 votes, (3.3%), leaving the Lib Dem Rory DAniels to pick up the scraps, accruing barely 548 votes. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-52192914518412874402017-06-11T16:14:47.615+01:002017-06-11T16:14:47.615+01:00At least Caerfyrddin and Wales would be safer in M...At least Caerfyrddin and Wales would be safer in Mari's hands than in Nia who would push a button that would be the beginning of the end of the human race. CYMRU AM BYTHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-87421196454582150032017-06-11T11:36:42.801+01:002017-06-11T11:36:42.801+01:00(hd)^2 Surprisingly no, although my point here wa...(hd)^2 Surprisingly no, although my point here was that in the conversations I had, there was a huge range of issues, and there was no discernible common thread.<br /><br />I know that another Plaid canvasser who happens to be a doctor at Glangwili was confronted by someone ranting against foreigners and immigrants. Rhys patiently pointed out, probably to no avail, that if he went to Glangwili, or another other hospital come to that, he would almost certainly find himself being treated by the very people he wanted to get rid of.Cneifiwrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767078276794410524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-78152576637633945872017-06-11T09:24:03.957+01:002017-06-11T09:24:03.957+01:00Health/NHS wasn't an issue on the doorstep?
I...Health/NHS wasn't an issue on the doorstep?<br /><br />If the reports of younger people voting is true then great. The realisation that only a vote cast makes a difference is perhaps one positive from the Brexit debacle. I had tax/NI deducted from wages of £1.50/hr and paid tax on petrol, parts etc. at sixteen. About time we lowered the voting age and re-balanced the voting system.(hd)^2https://www.blogger.com/profile/00420169214365371069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-56755277566535360432017-06-10T23:21:34.811+01:002017-06-10T23:21:34.811+01:00Fewer and Fewer old people rely on the BBC for new...Fewer and Fewer old people rely on the BBC for news as well,that's why I log in to you Bloggers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-61646887025850581792017-06-10T22:54:28.193+01:002017-06-10T22:54:28.193+01:00Good round up, I'm glad Jonathan Edwards is ba...Good round up, I'm glad Jonathan Edwards is back and has a new Plaid Cymru neighbour Ben Lake, Wales will need all 4 of them in the months and years ahead because Labour MP's from Wales haven't undergone any Damascene conversions in the past few weeks, they still resent Corbyn as much as they ever did. Kinnock Jr couldn't being himself to speak his name on election night.<br /><br />Talking of welsh media Nation.Cymru looks promising, there's also Planet Magazine which has some great articles in the current edition and is worth supporting if we want to see welsh news and current affairs sources to grow. http://www.planetmagazine.org.uk/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-118857435900510280.post-48825262807491312012017-06-10T16:22:07.424+01:002017-06-10T16:22:07.424+01:00In what way, specifically, would Mari Arthur have ...In what way, specifically, would Mari Arthur have made a successful MP? Seemed to be a very nice lady but absolutely clueless and very niaive about the local area and issues. One would have thought if she 'loved' Llanelli and Trimsaran that she would have done her homework during the past few years. It did seem to be a career opportunity for her given her 'very successful business woman' tag which did not stand up after five minutes of research. I think from now on it will be a case of where's Mari which is no better than the previous candidate who also 'loved' Llanelli. Another blog full of inaccurate rhetoric but great to see you actually got off yout back side and actually did some campaigning. Respect for that. You really haven't a clue about what happened in Llanelli, the effort put in or indeed any facts upon which you can base your opinion. Please don't pretend you do. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com